Searching for matchings with J-L24, L192.2 Haplotypes in YHRD.ORG

I entered the following values in YHRD which corresponds to kit no 112552 in j-l24 project J-L24 Project (L192.2+, L271+)

Result :

• All Metapopulation: Found 3 of 36449 matching haplotypes [f=8.231 × 10^-5 (95% CI: 1.697 × 10^-5 – 2.405 × 10^-4)] in 3 of 245 populations.

Eurasian Metapopulation: Found 2 of 14310 matching haplotypes [f=1.398 × 10^-4 (95% CI: 1.693 × 10^-5 – 5.048 × 10^-4)] in 2 of 99 populations.

The haplotypes matching are from

- One from Ravenna, Italy

- One from the United Stated (European American)

- One from Bogota, Colombia

Comparison with some L192.2+ known haplotypes from FTDNA J-L24 Project Data:

Kitno	Country	Haplogroup	n	19	389i	389ii	390	391	392	393	385	438	439	437	448	456	458	635	ygatah4
YHRD1	Ravenna, North Italy	UNKNOWN	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	14,17	9	11	15	19	13	16	21	11
YHRD2	Colombia	UNKNOWN	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	14,17	9	11	15	19	13	16	21	12
YHRD3	USA (European)	UNKNOWN	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	14,19	9	11	15	19	12	17	21	11
112552	Tunisia	J2a4h2f1(L192,2+,L271+)	1	15	12	28	24	9	11	12	13,15	9	11	15	21	15	15	21	11
164560	Tunisia	J2a4h2f1(L192,2+,L271+)	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	13,15	9	10	15	20	15	15		11
132751	USA (North Italy)	J2a4h2f(L192,2+,L271-)	1	15	13	29	24	10	11	12	13,16	9	11	15	21	15	15		11
189339	Armenia	J2a4h2f(L192,2+,L271-)	1	15	13	29	24	10	11	12	13,16	9	11	15	21	15	16		11

YHRD1 and YHRD2 are mismatching in only one marker (ygatah4) out of 17 markers and seem to have recent common ancestor

The YHRD samples are all mismatching with FTDNA samples in the following markers 448,456,458

Comparing with my YDNA own Data Base

This data base has 25760 haplotypes with 2634 Haplotypes belonging to J2* Haplogroup

YHRD1,YHRD2 and YHRD3 closest matches are belonging to J2b2 Haplogroup !

So it seems that they belong to J2b2 Haplogroup

So I adjusted the Search by Adding DYS456=15 an changed to the criteria:

I got the following result:





3 samples from Turkey:

And one sample from China!

Here is the Result Summary

Kitno	Origin	Haplogroup	n	19	389|1	389|2	390	391	392	393	385a	385b	438	439	437	448	456	458	635	ygatah4
YHRD_01	Ravenna, North Italy	J2b2 (Estimated)	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	14	17	9	11	15	19	13	16	21	11
YHRD_02	Colombia	J2b2 (Estimated)	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	14	17	9	11	15	19	13	16	21	12
YHRD_03	USA (European)	J2b2 (Estimated)	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	14	19	9	11	15	19	12	17	21	11
112552	Tunisia	J2a4h2f1(L192,2+,L271+)	1	15	12	28	24	9	11	12	13	15	9	11	15	21	15	15	21	11
164560	Tunisia	J2a4h2f1(L192,2+,L271+)	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	13	15	9	10	15	20	15	15		11
132751	USA (North Italy)	J2a4h2f(L192,2+,L271-)	1	15	13	29	24	10	11	12	13	16	9	11	15	21	15	15		11
189339	Armenia	J2a4h2f(L192,2+,L271-)	1	15	13	29			11	12	13	16	9	11	15	21	15	16		11
YHRD_04	Merkez, Central Anatolia, Turkey [Kurdish]	J2a4h2 (could be L192.2+)	2	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	13	16	9	12	15	20	15	15	21	12
YHRD_05	Shanxi China (Han)	J2b (Estimated)	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	12	18	9	12	15	19	15	15	21	10
YHRD_06	Merkez, Central Anatolia, Turkey [Kurdish]	J2a4h2 (could be L192.2+)	1	15	12	28	24	10	11	12	13	17	9	12	15	20	15	15	21	12

YHRD_04 closest matches all belong to J2a4h2(L192.2- and L192.2+)

YHRD_05 closest matches all belong to J2b

YHRD_064 closest matches all belong to J2a4h2 (L192.2- and L192.2+)

Conclusion:

- Some Haplotypes in YHRD which most probably belong to J2b are closely matching with J2a4h2 and J2a4h2f Haplotypes.

- By combining a haplotypes search in YHRD and calculation of Haplotypes mismatches with Haplotypes from a STR data Base , I have estimated the specific haplogroup of each of the haplotypes found.